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Post by crandallethan on Nov 17, 2015 3:07:14 GMT
In "The Madwomen in the Attic Article", Sandra Gilbert and Susan Gubar give window into the hearts of men in 1800's time period. Women are depicted as either fragile, pure, and angel like or monstrous and easy. In these assumptions there is no middle area where most of the women fall. These stereotypes create false identities that the oppressed struggle to deal with. When categorized as such, it is very difficult to find mobility between spaces. This leads into why women such as Bertha and the narrator for " The Yellow Wall-Paper" become mentally ill. Although instability is seen as a chaotic, monstrous topic, how these women started down the path of going insane is completely logical. Any person who is given a false identity, who is unable to change there label, and who is surrounded by everything they do not want to become would lead them to become that false identity (making them somewhat delusional), or try to internally deny it making them become crazy to themselves and their contemporaries. Unfortunately, the stereotypes women are force-fed in literature and everyday life are still alive and strong.
In the article there are reading from the 1700's and reading from the late 1900's about different conceptions of women in literature. Although it may be hidden more discreetly today in literature in multimedia it is vivid in private and sometimes public discussions and conversations across the world. Whether its the clueless and helpless damsel in distress,or the sexually driven rebel women and more specifically supporting characters are either black or white in terms of their role in literature. In the real world,any woman who doesn't seek an intimate relationship is pure and angelic but frail, while the girl that gives off any sexual ora is immediately labeled as easy. Overall, the more things change the more they stay the same. Even though outlets have been created to stop the labeling, the outlets can be used as another way of stereotyping women creating, in a way, a never ending circle of change.
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Post by Ms. McGettigan on Nov 17, 2015 18:58:08 GMT
Great points Ethan. Can anyone think of female characters in contemporary film or literature that either fit, or consciously don't fit, those stereotypes? Is the filmmaker/ author aware of it- if so, to what purpose?
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Post by jordanhilker on Nov 19, 2015 21:55:12 GMT
Great points Ethan. Can anyone think of female characters in contemporary film or literature that either fit, or consciously don't fit, those stereotypes? Is the filmmaker/ author aware of it- if so, to what purpose? In modern literature/ film, Katniss Everdeen from the Hunger Games goes against the general stereotype of women. She is a strong and tough character who is very similar to Jane Eyre in that she overcomes many things. Katniss defeats the Hunger Games not once, but twice. She is able to outlive 22 other people and save Peeta Mellark (a guy that she goes into the games with) from dying in the first game. She even starts a rebellion against the Capital which is a very risky thing to do. I believe that the author, Suzanne Collins, did this on purpose because she wanted to prove the woman can be as tough if not tougher than men. Katniss goes against the general stereotype and proves that not all women are weak and helpless. |
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Post by sko on Nov 19, 2015 23:08:09 GMT
Great points Ethan. Can anyone think of female characters in contemporary film or literature that either fit, or consciously don't fit, those stereotypes? Is the filmmaker/ author aware of it- if so, to what purpose? Hermione Granger from Harry Potter is an interesting character to look at. In class, we talked about how Hermione starts out as a pure, angelic kind of person, but progresses towards the other end of the spectrum. She doesn't fit into a particular stereotype if you look at the seven books as a whole, but if you look at particular scenes, such as in the first book, where Harry and Ron rescues her from the troll, she is fragile and pure. It's interesting because when I first read it, I thought she was like that because she was only eleven. As a child, it's hard not to be pure and fragile. As Hermione learns more and more, she begins to explore with older, more mature things. She doesn't go to the "prostitute" end of the spectrum, but she matures. That was also interesting to look at because the "angel" end is what a chile is like, and the other side acknowledges the adult life. Cho Chang, a more or less prominent figure in the fourth and fifth book, is on the pure side, with traces of the "fallen women" side. She's portrayed as some sort of angel that Harry likes, but at the same time, she is dating Cedric Diggory. The following year, after Cedric dies, she moves on to Harry. To be honest, I didn't really like her, and although it might not have been Rowling's intentions, Cho seemed like she was trying to fit into a stereotype (especially an Asian stereotype, not to bring in race here), but she couldn't. |
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Post by aamornwichet on Nov 20, 2015 1:58:58 GMT
Great points Ethan. Can anyone think of female characters in contemporary film or literature that either fit, or consciously don't fit, those stereotypes? Is the filmmaker/ author aware of it- if so, to what purpose? Yet still in many films today women still seem to be either frail or monstrous. A great example, I think, is in romantic comedies. Often the lead female in rom-coms are cutesy little innocent girls with fun jobs like fashion designer or author or florist or museum curator. At least in the romantic comedies I have seen, the lead female's main struggle is to "save" her man from a (pardon my french) bitch woman who is most notably of jobs of a rougher nature like Lawyer or business woman or scientist. Unlike to the 19th century dichotomies, our two ends of the spectrum root from art and science. The artists seem to be the pure of heart angelic characters who deserve a happy ending while the scientist and lawyers end up either alone or with somebody equally as "horrible" as they are. While we can say we have moved past calling women angles and whores, grouping women in to two groups -- those we like and those we dislike -- still continues. |
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Post by maddysmith on Nov 21, 2015 13:56:42 GMT
I think in a log of media today, authors/filmmakers think that in order to write a strong female character, she has to be physically strong and tough. You can really see this in the recent emergence of the dystopian novel with a female lead who beats people up (Hunger Games, Divergent, Matched). I am in no way bashing those series, but I think that it is possible to have a good female character without making her really tough, but by creating a well-rounded character. After a while, Katniss Everdeen and Tris seem almost like reiterations of the same character, brown hair, "the chosen one" and caught in a torrid love triangle. I would honestly like to see a female character who isn't tough but she's super smart, or really anything outside of the mold. I think that because of women being sorted into polarizing groups, society has sort of made a shift and said "let's make sure all of outlr characters are capable of beating people up and can single-handedly save the day." I think that in doing this, young girls are being taught that they should shed their more stereotypically "feminine" traits when really, girls should be doing whatever the heck they want.
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