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Post by sydniemarkowitz on Nov 19, 2015 12:43:33 GMT
...why are they important?
The differences between Jane and Bertha are obviously very apparent. They are two completely different characters but also show some similarities. The differences are important because they show the two ways women in those times could have ended up. Women, like Bertha, often times ended up submissive and in places that they didn't want to be at. On the contrary, women, like Jane, can end up in a happy place if they stand up for themselves and figure out what is important. The differences appear so that the reader can think about why the novel ended how it did for each character and if the character ended up happy or not. Women in literature often show the passive side of things. Jane shows the reader the "breaking boundaries" side of women. Looking at both of these, you have a clear picture of what life was like for these women.
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Post by Teresa Dinh on Nov 21, 2015 17:31:24 GMT
I agree with Sydnie that Jane and Bertha were two very different characters, but I think it's also important to note that they had similarities as well. For one, they fought against people who tried to mold them into being the submissive women that the 19th century society wanted them to be. Jane never let Mrs. Reed, Mr. Brocklehurst, St. John, or Rochester take away her passion or her rights. With each character, she learns a lesson and moves on. Basically, Jane removes herself from people who try to oppress her. Similarly, Bertha fought against Rochester and Grace Poole. While Bertha could not physically go somewhere else like Jane could, Bertha still never became the submissive wife that they wanted her to be.
The biggest difference between them is their options. Jane had the option of moving on, whereas Bertha was trapped in an attic. Sydnie said that "women, like Jane, can end up in a happy place if they stand up for themselves and figure out what is important," and this is true. However, we should not forget the fact that Bertha did try to fight for her own rights, but it didn't work out for her because she did not have the same freedom that Jane had.
If Rochester had treated Jane the same way he treated Bertha (in other words, locking her up in an attic), do you think Jane would have still ended up living happily in the manor house by the end of the book? Or do you think she would have followed a path that is more similar to Bertha's?
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Post by owenleber on Nov 21, 2015 21:44:26 GMT
To answer Teresa's question, I think that had Jane been locked up in the attic, the way Bertha was. She would have followed a path more similar to Bertha's. The way that I look at it, is that the woman is only portrayed the way she is because of how the man treats her. So if Rochester treats Jane like an angel, she will be angelic; and if he treats her like a whore, she will act like one. So even in reverse, I think that Bertha would have been a very different person if Rochester had treated her the way that he treated Jane.
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