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Post by harleen5 on Feb 7, 2016 1:12:17 GMT
The American Dream was seen before the 1920s as finding happiness in the New World. But in the Great Gatsby, Fitzgerald shows how the immense amount of wealth in the 1920s distorted the Dream. When Gatsby dies, the American Dream dies. He had invested so much into Daisy that she became his dream. Yet, Daisy was only a symbol of wealth, which is ultimately what Gatsby’s dream came down to. Despite his immense wealth, Gatsby wasn’t happy. He threw parties, learned to be an elite, and build his career out of bootlegging in order to get Daisy, but he ultimately failed, which symbolizes the demise of the American Dream. Yet Robert Frost’s poem "The Road Not Taken", has a different take on the idea of the American Dream. Robert Frost also lived during the early 1900s where for many, the American Dream was idolized. In the poem, the speaker is conflicted over which of two paths to take. He eventually takes the road less traveled, symbolizing the more difficult path of life. This decision reflects Frost’s view that in order to achieve the American Dream, one must take the harder route. However, this will pay off in the end. The speaker also discusses how one day, he may take the other route, but he doubts it. This displays how the speaker is aware that his choice is the better one, as he is working towards what Frost considers the American Dream. The poem also illustrates the idea that choosing one’s destiny is part of the American Dream. Like the speaker had the choice between the two roads, Frost is showing that being able to be in control of one’s future is an important part of achieving this dream.
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Post by subhanikp on Feb 7, 2016 2:14:05 GMT
Your analysis of the poem is very interesting. I agree with your idea that the more difficult route to success is, in most cases, the ideal path in achieving the American Dream. There is no easy way to it, which is demonstrated by Gatsby's ultimate failure. Being honest and hard-working is the only way to find success and happiness. However, I disagree with your other point that having control of the future is an important part of achieving this dream. Today's version of the American Dream gives more importance to obtaining happiness from pursuing a passion. In America, "the land of Hope", people can find pathways for each and every one of their passions and hobbies. They will be able to secure happiness for the rest of their lives by focuing on developing a specific passion. This, however, does not mean that people have control over their futures. One person might become a famous musician while another mighy only become a middling band teacher; even though each found different levels of success, both found happiness in pursuing their passions. Therefore, having the ability to control the future is not a necessary aspect of achieving the American Dream.
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Post by rmay99 on Feb 7, 2016 21:29:04 GMT
I find this analysis and comment to be quite profound. When reading the original poem, I never would have taken it in that light. Regardless, I agree with the idea of the American Dream being achieved through genuine, hard-working means. Concerning The Great Gatsby specifically, this helps the reader understand why Gatsby was ultimately not able to find his desired American Dream. Gatsby achieved his fortune and all of his material gains through underhanded, unlawful means. Although Gatsby has to work in the bootlegging industry to achieve his wealth, it is not a truly genuine hard-working path to success. Gatsby misses out on climbing the social ladder fairly and lawfully so his untruthful, behind the scenes money making leave him unable to achieve the American Dream. Frost on the other hand takes the challenges that come with living a true, toilsome journey while abiding by the law. Ultimately, Frost can achieve the dream by never giving up his morals for success whereas Gatsby cannot because he has to give up those morals for quicker, short-term success.
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Post by Emily Shea on Feb 7, 2016 21:38:00 GMT
Truthfully, I had not thought of Robert Frost's poem "The Road not Taken" to have anything to do with the American Dream. However, after reading this thread I have to admit my opinion has changed. Harleen, I really liked the last line of your post and i completely agree! Ultimately, you are in charge of your own destiny, and if you chose to take the easy way out you are most likely going to achieve very little. The hard workers will take "the Road not Taken" because they are not afraid of a challenge. Those are the people who will achieve the American Dream.
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Post by amber soppick on Feb 8, 2016 1:22:34 GMT
I think that your analysis of this poem is really interesting, however I think it applies a different way in according to The American Dream. I believe that when the speaker chooses to take the road less traveled, he is denying the American Dream, and instead choosing to live his life his own way. He feels the social pressure to follow the other path, as society dictates that everyone should try to, but after a hard decision, he finally chooses the other road and is satisfied with his choice, realizing now the truth of the illusion of The American Dream. That's just my analysis of it, though, I do believe your meaning is really well thought out and it made me think.
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Post by anewman98 on Feb 8, 2016 2:38:01 GMT
Harleen, this was such a cool analysis of "The Road Not Taken". I never thought to compare it to the American Dream. In a way, the paths in the poem relate to Gatsby's life choice. He knew he wanted to achieve the American Dream and he essentially had the option of taking two paths. Rather than take the path of hard work, he chose the corrupt path of scandal and illegal business (and basically stalking Daisy). The wickedness of the path led to the wicked outcome of his American Dream - death. Perhaps he would have achieved financial success and love if he was just honest and hard working in the first place.
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Post by ndefilippis on Feb 8, 2016 3:18:05 GMT
The American Dream was seen before the 1920s as finding happiness in the New World. But in the Great Gatsby, Fitzgerald shows how the immense amount of wealth in the 1920s distorted the Dream. When Gatsby dies, the American Dream dies. He had invested so much into Daisy that she became his dream. Yet, Daisy was only a symbol of wealth, which is ultimately what Gatsby’s dream came down to. Despite his immense wealth, Gatsby wasn’t happy. He threw parties, learned to be an elite, and build his career out of bootlegging in order to get Daisy, but he ultimately failed, which symbolizes the demise of the American Dream. Yet Robert Frost’s poem "The Road Not Taken", has a different take on the idea of the American Dream. Robert Frost also lived during the early 1900s where for many, the American Dream was idolized. In the poem, the speaker is conflicted over which of two paths to take. He eventually takes the road less traveled, symbolizing the more difficult path of life. This decision reflects Frost’s view that in order to achieve the American Dream, one must take the harder route. However, this will pay off in the end. The speaker also discusses how one day, he may take the other route, but he doubts it. This displays how the speaker is aware that his choice is the better one, as he is working towards what Frost considers the American Dream. The poem also illustrates the idea that choosing one’s destiny is part of the American Dream. Like the speaker had the choice between the two roads, Frost is showing that being able to be in control of one’s future is an important part of achieving this dream. Harleen, I found your analysis very interseting. Although, I think that the traveler "took the road less traveled" not only because it was harder, but because he saw it while no one else did. I think this relates to the American Dream in the aspect that ew can create our own opportunities that no one else sees in order to succeed. We do not necessarily have to conform to the defined path of success in the American Dream, because we can create our own opportunities elsewhere.
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