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Post by nzglinicki on Sept 22, 2015 19:35:56 GMT
The point of view in "The Interlopers" was third person limited on Ulrich von Gradwitz. It's interesting that, out of all the points of view that could have been used, the author chose third person limited. It does give us an inside feeling of what's going on without overwhelming the reader with thought and emotions, but it could easily have been a successful and interesting story from other points of view. - From a wolves perspective while it watched them.
- From Ulrich or Georg's perspective.
- From an objective view with only the facts.
- From one of the men from the hunting party.
- Etc.
What do you guys think about this choice by the author?
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Post by morganmassino on Sept 23, 2015 16:10:06 GMT
Hey Natalie! First off, I think your ideas for other possible points of view are very interesting! The story would have been very different, but very fascinating, if it were told from a wolf's perspective or from the perspective of one of the men from the hunting party.
I think that Saki chose to use third person point of view because, especially in the beginning, it avoids bias. If it was first person point of view with Ulrich, we probably would have viewed Georg as "the bad guy" throughout the rest of the story we might have felt that Ulrich was being just in his extreme hatred towards the Znaeym family because of his telling of the back story. By using third person, the reader still gets a sense of the conflict between the two families without having an unnecessary bias towards either side.
Also, when Georg and Ulrich are stuck under the tree Ulrich throws Georg his flask, the third person point of view made the scene better to me. If we had heard Ulrich's thoughts before he decided to throw away years of hatred in hopes of becoming friends with Georg and before offering the other man his flask, it would have felt very cheesy to me.
Overall, I think Saki used third person point of view so that he could just tell the story based on what actually happen without bias or exaggeration.
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Post by dgarrett on Sept 23, 2015 21:24:43 GMT
I agree with Morgan on the point of view being better in third person, rather than having a first person story that is totally biased. However, I think we still get a little bit of bias towards Ulrich von Gradwitz due to the narrator knowing and speaking about his thoughts and feelings. Even though this third person limited point of view does give us a wider outlook on the events in the story, especially in the scene Morgan mentioned, I think that if the narrator was omniscient, we would have had an even less biased view on the characters. The bias that we get does help us take our side in the story, so I believe Saki took the right path in choosing third person limited all throughout the story.
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Post by elizaneights on Sept 24, 2015 1:15:23 GMT
I agree that the third person point of view makes sense in this story because it allows it to be told without too much of a bias, but as Dylan said, there is still a slight bias toward Ulrich. I think it would be interesting to know what George was thinking throughout the story, so there might be a reason why Saki chose to write about Ulrich's thoughts and emotions rather than Georg's. He may not want the reader to know exactly what Georg was thinking after Ulrich asked him to be his friend and what made him agree. Before that, he seemed to hate Ulrich more than Ulrich hated him when he refused to drink the wine Ulrich offered him. I think a bias toward Georg could help us understand what was going through his mind and why he went from complete hatred to being friends with Ulrich in a very short amount of time.
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Post by amandakaliner on Sept 24, 2015 20:01:30 GMT
The story "A&P" is told from a first-person point of view. This use is very important to understanding the narrator's personal thoughts and feelings, but it is also flawed because we as readers do not get to see the opinions of any of the other characters, such as the people walking around the store while the girls were there in their bathing suits. What were they thinking while this was going on? We as readers don't get to find out since the narrator calls them "sheep." So, first person point of view in this story has its advantages but also it has many flaws.
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Post by Emily Shea on Sept 25, 2015 1:01:45 GMT
The story "A&P" is told from a first-person point of view. This use is very important to understanding the narrator's personal thoughts and feelings, but it is also flawed because we as readers do not get to see the opinions of any of the other characters, This is an excellent point Amanda! First person point of view is always difficult because it beneficially to understand the protagonist's thought, but you always wonder what is going on in the other character's minds! Lengel is one character who's thoughts I wished to have known; from when he kicked the three girls out for their beach attire, to Sammy quitting because of his actions. I suppose we will always be left to wonder due to the author's choice of first person point of view. With this being said, I do believe that for developing plot and theme first person was the best choice.
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Post by Maddie on Nov 16, 2017 5:36:13 GMT
THE POINT OF VIEW IN THE INTERLOPERS IS THIRD PERSON OMNISCIENT DUMBOS
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